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These aren't halogen lamps at all!

Posted: March 28th, 2017, 8:37 pm
by spotify95
Doh! :doh2:

The seller of these lamps has listed them as being halogen:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352011623462

However, if you look closely, they're not halogen at all!!

@pinkteddyx64, can you guess what lamp type they actually are, and what the correct remedy for that would be?

Re: These aren't halogen lamps at all!

Posted: March 28th, 2017, 8:38 pm
by pinkteddyx64
princechromey wrote:Doh! :doh2:

The seller of these lamps has listed them as being halogen:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352011623462

However, if you look closely, they're not halogen at all!!

@pinkteddyx64, can you guess what lamp type they actually are, and what the correct remedy for that would be?

I'm not sure.

Re: These aren't halogen lamps at all!

Posted: March 28th, 2017, 8:44 pm
by spotify95
pinkteddyx64 wrote:
princechromey wrote:Doh! :doh2:

The seller of these lamps has listed them as being halogen:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352011623462

However, if you look closely, they're not halogen at all!!

@pinkteddyx64, can you guess what lamp type they actually are, and what the correct remedy for that would be?

I'm not sure.

They're actually metal halide lights in there!

The thing is, you know what the issue with Metal Halide is, right? The bulbs may get overworked, thus leading to damaged ballasts, capacitor plague, and other problems!
In fact, one of the M&Co stores that I have been in before (a brand new store when it took over an ex-Woolworths store, so almost 10 years ago) was fully fitted out with metal halide spots, and a number of them have already gone green (the light output is green).

Now if you look on this MH guide: http://synergylightingusa.com/how-to-te ... -replaced/ you'll be able to find out the problem.

The thing being, what's to say that the eBay lamps don't already have the same issue, or an even worse issue (like a dead ballast, ignitor and capacitor)?

Re: These aren't halogen lamps at all!

Posted: March 28th, 2017, 8:46 pm
by pinkteddyx64
princechromey wrote:
pinkteddyx64 wrote:
princechromey wrote:Doh! :doh2:

The seller of these lamps has listed them as being halogen:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352011623462

However, if you look closely, they're not halogen at all!!

@pinkteddyx64, can you guess what lamp type they actually are, and what the correct remedy for that would be?

I'm not sure.

They're actually metal halide lights in there!

The thing is, you know what the issue with Metal Halide is, right? The bulbs may get overworked, thus leading to damaged ballasts, capacitor plague, and other problems!
In fact, one of the M&Co stores that I have been in before (a brand new store when it took over an ex-Woolworths store, so almost 10 years ago) was fully fitted out with metal halide spots, and a number of them have already gone green (the light output is green).

Now if you look on this MH guide: http://synergylightingusa.com/how-to-te ... -replaced/ you'll be able to find out the problem.

The thing being, what's to say that the eBay lamps don't already have the same issue, or an even worse issue (like a dead ballast, ignitor and capacitor)?

I know right.

There's a car park near me that was little by an MH light and it's just been replaced with an LED.

Re: These aren't halogen lamps at all!

Posted: March 28th, 2017, 10:55 pm
by spotify95
pinkteddyx64 wrote:
princechromey wrote:
pinkteddyx64 wrote:
princechromey wrote:Doh! :doh2:

The seller of these lamps has listed them as being halogen:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352011623462

However, if you look closely, they're not halogen at all!!

@pinkteddyx64, can you guess what lamp type they actually are, and what the correct remedy for that would be?

I'm not sure.

They're actually metal halide lights in there!

The thing is, you know what the issue with Metal Halide is, right? The bulbs may get overworked, thus leading to damaged ballasts, capacitor plague, and other problems!
In fact, one of the M&Co stores that I have been in before (a brand new store when it took over an ex-Woolworths store, so almost 10 years ago) was fully fitted out with metal halide spots, and a number of them have already gone green (the light output is green).

Now if you look on this MH guide: http://synergylightingusa.com/how-to-te ... -replaced/ you'll be able to find out the problem.

The thing being, what's to say that the eBay lamps don't already have the same issue, or an even worse issue (like a dead ballast, ignitor and capacitor)?

I know right.

There's a car park near me that was little by an MH light and it's just been replaced with an LED.


That is why MH is not a very good technology and that you are honestly better off using LED instead. In fact, unless you've seen the MH lamps working before, you are better off converting the MH lamps to LED. :)

That's good to hear, as I said MH is not a very good technology. It was OK a couple of decades ago when LEDs weren't around and MH had the longest lifespan and color rendering of most lamps (that are designed to be continuously light) but the maintenance costs are staggeringly high if you don't spot faults as soon as they appear, or if you don't know the faults. What did they do with the old MH lamp, out of interest, as I was wondering if they'd let you keep it for your own use? :)

Re: These aren't halogen lamps at all!

Posted: March 28th, 2017, 11:02 pm
by pinkteddyx64
princechromey wrote:
pinkteddyx64 wrote:
princechromey wrote:
pinkteddyx64 wrote:
princechromey wrote:Doh! :doh2:

The seller of these lamps has listed them as being halogen:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352011623462

However, if you look closely, they're not halogen at all!!

@pinkteddyx64, can you guess what lamp type they actually are, and what the correct remedy for that would be?

I'm not sure.

They're actually metal halide lights in there!

The thing is, you know what the issue with Metal Halide is, right? The bulbs may get overworked, thus leading to damaged ballasts, capacitor plague, and other problems!
In fact, one of the M&Co stores that I have been in before (a brand new store when it took over an ex-Woolworths store, so almost 10 years ago) was fully fitted out with metal halide spots, and a number of them have already gone green (the light output is green).

Now if you look on this MH guide: http://synergylightingusa.com/how-to-te ... -replaced/ you'll be able to find out the problem.

The thing being, what's to say that the eBay lamps don't already have the same issue, or an even worse issue (like a dead ballast, ignitor and capacitor)?

I know right.

There's a car park near me that was little by an MH light and it's just been replaced with an LED.


That is why MH is not a very good technology and that you are honestly better off using LED instead. In fact, unless you've seen the MH lamps working before, you are better off converting the MH lamps to LED. :)

That's good to hear, as I said MH is not a very good technology. It was OK a couple of decades ago when LEDs weren't around and MH had the longest lifespan and color rendering of most lamps (that are designed to be continuously light) but the maintenance costs are staggeringly high if you don't spot faults as soon as they appear, or if you don't know the faults. What did they do with the old MH lamp, out of interest, as I was wondering if they'd let you keep it for your own use? :)

It was disposed of before I could ask. :(

Re: These aren't halogen lamps at all!

Posted: March 28th, 2017, 11:13 pm
by spotify95
pinkteddyx64 wrote:
princechromey wrote:
pinkteddyx64 wrote:
princechromey wrote:
pinkteddyx64 wrote:
princechromey wrote:Doh! :doh2:

The seller of these lamps has listed them as being halogen:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/352011623462

However, if you look closely, they're not halogen at all!!

@pinkteddyx64, can you guess what lamp type they actually are, and what the correct remedy for that would be?

I'm not sure.

They're actually metal halide lights in there!

The thing is, you know what the issue with Metal Halide is, right? The bulbs may get overworked, thus leading to damaged ballasts, capacitor plague, and other problems!
In fact, one of the M&Co stores that I have been in before (a brand new store when it took over an ex-Woolworths store, so almost 10 years ago) was fully fitted out with metal halide spots, and a number of them have already gone green (the light output is green).

Now if you look on this MH guide: http://synergylightingusa.com/how-to-te ... -replaced/ you'll be able to find out the problem.

The thing being, what's to say that the eBay lamps don't already have the same issue, or an even worse issue (like a dead ballast, ignitor and capacitor)?

I know right.

There's a car park near me that was little by an MH light and it's just been replaced with an LED.


That is why MH is not a very good technology and that you are honestly better off using LED instead. In fact, unless you've seen the MH lamps working before, you are better off converting the MH lamps to LED. :)

That's good to hear, as I said MH is not a very good technology. It was OK a couple of decades ago when LEDs weren't around and MH had the longest lifespan and color rendering of most lamps (that are designed to be continuously light) but the maintenance costs are staggeringly high if you don't spot faults as soon as they appear, or if you don't know the faults. What did they do with the old MH lamp, out of interest, as I was wondering if they'd let you keep it for your own use? :)

It was disposed of before I could ask. :(

Damn it! I could have easily used that MH lamp for something! :(

See if you can get any old HPS/LPS/MH lamps and see if you can convert them to LED :D